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They look nearly identical, but there are significant differences in construction and tone. The Bundy II was based on the TT body - according to Ralph Morgan's (the designer) post on Saxophone.Org. I knew the Bundy I alto was supposed to be based on the TT body tube do you know if that holds true with the Bundy I tenors? The Bundy 1 was the Elkhart body from the '50s. I don't know if it's a feature common to other makers or not, but the fact that the low Bb tone hole is a bit smaller than the low B tone hole does make it look a lot like an Aristocrat bell. I don't know by any stretch, but my guess is that it was probably from a store that was really involved with Buescher, or some organization that ordered a few horns, something like that. The second-line horns from Buescher were branded 'Elkhart', though, and a normal stencil wouldn't be marked as a Buescher.
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Looks a lot like my Aristocrat minus one or two whistles and bells, and the arched serial number is a Buescher thing. Which I interpret to mean 'now that we've lost our lucrative gov't contract we've got to get serious about musical instruments again!!' In any case, that catalog must be from between '56 - '59. Look at page 5 of the '59 catalog with the old script - nice little summary of what Buescher had been up to during the war years - and noting that its government altimeter contract ran out in '56.
Anyway, if both those catalogs are from '59, they up and changed everything all at once and had to print new catalogs. So maybe that price list was an insert and didn't belong. There's a price list effective 1959 at the end, but it includes models - like the S-33 - that aren't in that catalog. I don't see a copyright date in the other.Īn eye for the main chance. That catalog has a copyright date of '59 at the front.
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But in the other '59 catalog with the new Buescher script - the full catalog, not the price pamphlet - Elkhart is dropped and the S-33 etc. It's using the old-style Buescher script, and includes the Elkhart line. The last one before the '60 catalog seems off I think it's from earlier. Incidentally, I was looking at the Buescher literature up on the site there are three that are supposed to be from '59. Whether the Elkhart trumpet was based on older Buescher tooling, I don't know. They did similar things with the brass for instance the Elkhart 36B trumpet became the T-36B Aristocrat trumpet. I knew the Bundy I alto was supposed to be based on the TT body tube do you know if that holds true with the Bundy I tenors? I don't have a catalog between '63 and '65, and I know they were mucking with the model numbers then. Taking a wild guess, it's probably based on the Elkhart horn which was based on the TT and became what we call the Bundy I.
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Buescher Trumpet Serial numbers are most often found on the 2nd valve casing - OR if that is buffed off, check on one of the valves themselves! Pull out a valve and look on the section just below the button and stem. Years and Serial Numbers are Approximate. I do not know if an Elkhart Serial number list exists or not. I am searching though.īuescher Serial Number List.
See my new Pan American Serial Number thread To date, I am not aware of Elkhart BIC having its own manufacturing facility.
After 1919 all so called Conn stencils came out of the Pan American plant and carry the Pan American serial number system. So I don't consider it a stencil, it is a line, a manufacturer in its own right. Pan American had its own manufacturing plant opened in November 1919. Both pan American and Elkhart BIC were incorporated in 1919 with in 2 months of each other. Greenleaf bought Conn in 1915, He bought Buescher in 1916 and established both Pan American and Elkhart Band Instruments in 1917. Elkhart Band Instrument Company was to Buescher as Pan American was to Conn. What I have yet to be able to pinpoint is if the S-33 and the Bundy 1 are identical or not - meaning was the S-33 the Elkhart body tube or the 140/141 body tube. Obvious Buescher serial number places it between '63 and '65.